I have not confirmed the data in the chart, but I’m guessing if there’s anything wrong with it, CUEE surely can tell us.
-jsq
PS: Found on the Friends of Valdosta City Schools facebook page.
I have not confirmed the data in the chart, but I’m guessing if there’s anything wrong with it, CUEE surely can tell us.
-jsq
PS: Found on the Friends of Valdosta City Schools facebook page.
The Chamber sent the appended letter to two tax-funded publicly-elected bodies, making it a matter of public record. I’m sure the Chamber has the resources to host their own copy of their own letter, so here I’m publishing it with my commentary in red in the boxes on the right. Bold text marks what the comments refer to. -jsq
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:46:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Gooding
Subject: School System Unification Message
Dear Chamber Members:Below is a letter that the Chamber Board of Directors would like to share with all of our members. The letter is being sent today to all members of the Valdosta City and Lowndes County School Boards and both Superintendents. In a meeting yesterday of the Chamber Board, there was strong consensus to maintain our commitment to school system unification and to CUEE.
Most important, the Board members were firm in their belief that the Chamber’s role in the upcoming discussions regarding school system unification must remain “on the high road.” Thank you for your support of the Chamber in this effort.
Both school boards voted in open meetings, with the vote of each member recorded on video. Yet the chamber just has “strong consensus” and we don’t know who voted which way for what. That’s the kind “high road” we’ve come to expect from proponents of “unification”. Tom Gooding
Chairman of the Board
Valdosta-Lowndes County Chamber of Commerce
September 9, 2011
TO: Valdosta City and Lowndes County School Board Members and Superintendents:The mission of the Valdosta-Lowndes County Chamber of Commerce is to serve as a unifying force, a focal point for enhancing the economic, social and cultural well-being of the communities it serves. In this role, the Chamber has been a leading voice for many of the critical issues facing Valdosta and Lowndes County, including the ongoing debate around unification of our separate local school systems.
The Chamber does and will continue to energetically support school unification. Our Board of Directors voted unanimously to support unification
and polling showed the overwhelming support of some 78% of our membership (over 1,500 strong) for unification as well. The Chamber did not take on this effort lightly and would not have done so without the belief that the unification of the two school systems would far outweigh any perceived disadvantages.
Unanimously? But your chairman says it was “strong consensus”. Maybe we’re talking about some previous unanimous vote. In which case apparently even the Chamber’s board is no longer unanimous in support of “unification”. The business leaders of our community are disappointed
that the debate around school unification has recently become divisive and more importantly misleading, based on emotional and fear arguments rather than facts. As you know the Chamber has been a long-time community advocate for children and believes a unified school system is the first step to ensuring equal opportunity, improving educational achievement, and thus enhancing the economic well-being of our entire community.
Really? The Chamber speaks for all business leaders of our community? Funny how I’ve run across quite a few who don’t agree with the Chamber on this issue. It has been said that “business” is behind the Chamber’s unification efforts, as if making our city and county increasingly attractive to business and industry, which can provide jobs to both the parents of our children and, upon graduation, the children themselves, were a negative. It isn’t.
Our existing businesses and industries are disappointed that our local public schools are not producing graduates who are qualified for today’s workforce, not to mention the substantial number of students who drop out well before graduation. The statistical reality is that Valdosta High School has not met the State of Georgia’s AYP (annual yearly progress) standards for five consecutive years. It is likely that when the state releases its graduation rates this year using the new, more accurate federal standard for measuring graduation rates, both of our school systems will show significant decreases in graduation rates.
Here in 2011 we continue to
endure schools that are essentially segregated by economic status. Unless something changes dramatically, this community will continue to travel a path
Um, how about stop using “County Schools” as a selling point for subdivisions? of racial and economic resegregation.
Such advertising has helped get us so far down that path that there’s not a lot further to go. The Chamber is disappointed in the recent actions taken by the two School Boards and also by Dr. Cason and Dr. Smith for blurring the facts in their recent letters to the editor of the Valdosta Daily Times.
Yes, there indeed have been improvements in our schools and for that the Superintendents should be commended — but the overall pattern has not changed significantly and the overall outlook for all of our children is not encouraging. The Chamber also realizes school unification, by itself, will not be the sole answer to every challenge. But the data clearly
That’s pretty rich considering the VDT’s own editorial apologized to Dr. Smith that the VDT had “unintentionally fanned the flames”, and the same editorial provided a list of questions it said consolidation proponents haven’t answered. Tell me again who’s blurring the facts? shows that communities of our size with a single, unified school system are more successful in planning and implementing school reforms, have greater parent and community involvement, and build stronger professional programs for teachers and principals — all of which are critical factors in raising student achievement and sustaining academic gains over time.
Where are these data? All the letter cites is a poll of the Chamber’s own members. That’s not data: that’s wishful thinking, as Sam Allen of FVCS pointed out at the VBOE meeting. The citizens of Valdosta clearly want the opportunity to vote on unification.
More than 7,000 voters — more than those who have voted in recent City elections — signed the petition calling for the upcoming referendum.
Too bad the Chamber doesn’t think the citizens of the rest of Lowndes County deserve a vote, or at least the Chamber can’t even be bothered to mention that in CUEE’s scheme we don’t get a vote. Even though the Georgia Constitution says we should. CUEE has made it pretty clear they don’t care about county voters. As we go forward, the Chamber urges both School Boards to support and encourage an open and fair dialogue about this issue.
More importantly, rather than simply saying no to unification as both School Boards and both Superintendents have recently done,
You first, CUEE and Chamber (is there a difference, by the way?). Oh, wait, CUEE did go first, with that dog-and-pony Kick-off thing back in March, in which they conveniently ran out of time to answer questions about how “unification” would improve education for the least fortunate. They don’t have a plan to improve education, and “unification” won’t do anything to improve education. The only real dialog about school consolidation I’ve seen was at the May Lowndes County Democratic Party meeting, where proponents and opponents gave their positions, and then stood side by side and answered questions from the audience.
the Chamber also believes the community would benefit from the School Boards and their Superintendents coming forward to meaningfully participate in the dialogue of what a unified school system would look like and stating publicly that, should the referendum prevail — a very real prospect — on Nov. 8, both School Boards will work together to ensure a smooth planning and transition process to a unified school system.
Did the Chamber read the school board statements? Each of them spelled out their reasoning at some length. Here they are:
So the Chamber wants the school boards to say they expect the referendum to succeed, right after both boards said they don’t want it to succeed. Kind of like how CUEE told people that if they signed the petition for a referendum, that didn’t mean they were for “unification”. And how CUEE counts anybody who attends its committee meetings as supporters, even if they just went to see what CUEE was up to. Is such Orwellian double-speak what we want taught to the children of our community? Besides, both school boards said in their statements that they were open to discussion, so the Chamber pretending it is making the first move on this is, ah, disingenuous.
How about if the Chamber and CUEE state publicly that there’s a very real chance that the referendum will not pass, now that both school boards and the VDT have come out against it, and if it doesn’t pass the Chamber and CUEE will give up on “unification” and not bring it up again?
A number of communities throughout Georgia and the South have merged their city and county school systems during the past 15-20 years. Indeed, there are only some 22 separate city and specialized school systems left in Georgia versus 159 county school systems in our state.
The results in terms of student performance, tax rates, retaining professional faculty and increased community support, while not perfect, are very encouraging. We would urge the School Boards and other interested parties to study those efforts.
On the one hand Valdosta and Lowndes County aspire to metropolitan status. On the other hand, the Chamber wants to compare us to every county in the state, no matter how small. Yes, Lanier County has a unified school system. No offense to Lanier County, but it also has only about 10,000 people to Lowndes County’s approx. 109,000 people. However, if “unification” passes, Lanier County, already by far the fastest growing county around here, will grow even faster as bright flight runs beyond the “unified” school system. Unless the Chamber and CUEE plan to drag all of Lanier, Echols, and Brooks Counties into their “unified” school district, the metropolitan area will not be unified.
Also among those cities with their own school systems is Dublin, which landed that MAGE Solar plant. Apparently having two school systems is not an impediment to getting industry to move in, after all.
Once again the Chamber cites no evidence. Apparently the Lowndes County Board of Education did study consolidated school districts, since its resolution concluded consolidated school districts neither improved education nor saved money; quite the opposite: taxes went up. Since CUEE and the Chamber don’t actually provide any information on the “results” they find fit their confirmation bias, LCBOE is more credible on this. The Chamber Board of Directors itself looks forward to meeting with members of both School Boards to discuss how we might work together on behalf of our children, sooner rather than later. We take this opportunity to formally invite the members of our School Boards and our Superintendents to meet with us. If not now, when?
Sincerely,
Tom Gooding
Chairman of the Board of Directors
Myrna Ballard
President
The actual resolution is a model of such things: simple and easy to read, yet complete enough to cover the territory, and leaving no doubts as to the board’s position. Congratulations to LCBOE on that resolution!
Playlist, called meeting, Lowndes County Board of Education (LCBOE),
Valdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 30 August 2011.
Videos by Gretchen Quarterman and John S. Quarterman
for LAKE, the Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange.
Let me also take a moment to thank some LCBOE staff. Continue reading
Videos of entire VBOE 29 August 2011 meeting
education, referendum, consolidation, statement,
Work Session, Valdosta Board of Education (VBOE),
Valdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 29 August 2011.
Videos by John S. Quarterman for LAKE, the Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange.
The playlist also includes other video material, such as Continue reading
The Valdosta Board of Education voted last week to oppose school consolidation. Note plenty of FVCS people there, many speaking against consolidation. If there were CUEE people present, they were awful silent.
If “unification” is about education, where was CUEE at that meeting or at the Lowndes County Board of Education meeting the following day when LCBOE unanimously passed a resolution supporting VBOE in opposition to consolidation? Maybe CUEE will show up tonight and say something. Unless VDT is right, and CUEE can’t answer the relevant questions.
-jsq
The first thing they’ll do is sell that stadium. They’d be crazy not to do…. They’re not going to pay upkeep on two stadiums. Look at Tallahassee, Macon: all the schools play at one stadium….By “those people” I don’t think he means the Lowndes County Board of Education; I think he was referring to CUEE.…
Don’t let those people run the show. Don’t let them take the power away from us.
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If one day it makes good economic sense for y’all to make the decision to sell that property to Valdosta State and build another stadium and we can come out ahead, I think that’s a great idea.
Like my granddaddy said, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Here’s the video: Continue reading
I don’t have kids, but I have plenty of friends that do. that are in Valdosta city school system, and they like the direction that the school system is going. They like the quality of education that their children are getting at this time.You know, the research CUEE either did and rejected, according to Sam Allen about the questions VDT claims CUEE can’t answer. There are answers; just not ones CUEE likes.My grandfather used to say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. It ain’t broke, so why are we going to let them try to fix it?
Do the research; I’ve done the research. Do the research on other communities that have consolidated two systems. When you get a big huge system, the quality of education goes down. Check it out. Research it.
Property taxes go up. Property values go down. Do the research.
Here’s the video:
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it @ VBOE 29 August 2011
education, referendum, consolidation, statement,
Work Session, Valdosta Board of Education (VBOE),
Valdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 29 August 2011.
Videos by John S. Quarterman for LAKE, the Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange.
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George Boston Rhynes made three points: Continue reading
Valdosta School Superintendent Cason made what probably would have been a routine report about 11. A. Selection of architect for Southeast Elementary – Dr. Cason – information only:
However, since the referendum for consolidation made the ballot, it would be impossible for us to sell bonds at this time.because who would buy them, knowing the selling school board might not exist come this November? Or, if the consolidation referendum passes, for some unknown time after that? So the board decided to postpone even selecting an architect until the consolidation question is resolved.
Here’s the video:
“It would be impossible for us to sell bonds at this time” —Dr. Cason @ VBOE 29 August 2011
education, referendum, consolidation, statement,
Work Session, Valdosta Board of Education (VBOE),
Valdosta, Lowndes County, Georgia, 29 August 2011.
Videos by John S. Quarterman for LAKE, the Lowndes Area Knowledge Exchange.
-jsq
After dancing around the issue and muttering about “ugly turns”, the VDT finally gets to the point in its editorial of today:
We still believe in school unification, but we can no longer support the current effort.Most of those questions do have answers: Continue readingFor the past several weeks, readers have asked us how unification would work. Would it change millage rates? Would students be bussed cross-county? Who would lose or keep their jobs? When would Valdosta City Schools dissolve its charter and the Lowndes County School System take over? What are the estimates on cost savings? Would it be more efficient? What happens Nov. 9, the day after the election?
We’ve asked these questions, too. No one can answer them.
The organization that worked to place the issue on the ballot has not offered satisfactory answers. Community Unification for Educational Excellence has admirably spent time proposing ways to increase academic performance if the systems are unified. But CUEE has yet to present a recommended plan for how the merger would work.
If the referendum passes, the school boards will decide how unification would proceed. And both school boards are opposed to unification.
It is this prevailing sense of the unknown that has spurred The Times to oppose the Nov. 8 referendum.
There are too many unanswered questions. There are too many uncertainties at this point. There has to be a better way to present this to the voters.
A vote for unification in this climate is a vote for chaos.