We have another response to Interesting voting at Lowndes County Republican Convention Delegate Meeting. Jeff blogged on WOW! Lowndes County Republican Delegate Meeting Video:
…What you will see in this short video is people, citizens with the same rights as everyone else, being intimidated and bullied at what
is supposed to be a meeting that has rules and procedures in place to ensure fairness and due process. I will be the first one to admit, this video is a wake up call to me that I need to have a better understanding of these rules and procedures. One does not have to have a full working knowledge of the rules and procedures to see what is happening in this video. There are a few at this meeting (some are newbies to this process) that obviously disagree with the majority and the majority do not like it one bit! At this point I would like to point out that it would have been proper if those that were experienced would have been nicer and appreciate the fact that other people in the community are getting involved, as we all should, and taken the opportunity to help them understand procedures. Instead they do their best to ridicule and make them feel uncomfortable….
I don’t think the reaction of those that were guilty of using such tactics was because these people were Ron Paul supporters. I believe they would have responded exactly the same to anyone that had the audacity to question or challenge them, to not just sit there like good little zombies and go along with whatever they said. You see, that is where the real problem lies. Those with power or authority have either been corrupted by that power and authority or believe
that any question or challenge is a direct threat to themselves. They even begin to feel superior to most people and even in what at best case scenario, in some twisted way, think that they are the only ones capable of making decisions and seeing the big picture. That they are actually doing others a favor because those other people just are not smart enough to make good decisions!You will see that the Chair, does not have control and is actually a victim of being bullied also by what appears to be the Rules Adviser. It appears that those in charge, the group that has the knowledge of how this is supposed to run, are more interested in preserving their power and keeping anyone with opposing views from exercising their rights under the rules, than they are in making sure the meeting is run according to the rules and procedures….
As far as I know, I do not know any one person at this meeting. I don’t know those in charge or anything about them. I don’t know their names, what they do, who they represent or what connections, if any, they have. These are just my observations from watching the video and any knowledge of the rules and procedures came from the article and comments on the original video. I have no hidden agenda or ax to grind with anybody there. All that being said I need to also point out that this is in part a big part of the problem in America today. The local politics are run just like the national politics. So when people say that the national level politics does not affect them locally, they are wrong.
There’s more in his blog post. Barbara and Jeff seem to agree that the “establishment” had it their way. People have also been commenting on the YouTube video.
-jsq
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Please note this comment left on the You Tube video by acon4awhile (I guess this means a conservative for a while. Could this be one of the “Blue Republicans” who have jumped parties to try to get Ron Paul nominated because the Democrats like his promise to legalize drugs and other liberal interests? Good possibility since I first linked to the Blue Republican web site from one of his posts.)
“There’s 2/3rds needed to close the debate over the slate, but just 50% + 1 to pass the slate. So where does this lead? Making people wait so long they have to leave and then vote on the slate that already passed?? I’m assuming there can be a motion to amend the slate passed once some of the original majority have to leave, adhering to a filibuster. I guess we could have been more aggressive, but could have been just as successful. We got 14/28 district and 8/22 state for Ron Paul that day.”
acon4awhile in reply to acon4awhile (Show the comment) 1 day ago
This comment speaks for itself. The intent was to stall through endless questions and arguments until “the majority” had to leave and the Ron Paul supporters could re-vote the slate to pick their delegates. I know for a fact that is their objective because I have researched their blogs and member pages. As I stated in my other comment all the majority had to do was vote to choose delegates one by one which would have stopped all arguments. As each nominee came up for vote the majority could then vote in their choices and vote out all the Ron Paul stallers. Again, in hind sight that is exactly what should have been done since the Ron Paul supporters are not at all appreciative of the fact they were allowed 14/28 and 8/22 delegate spots when they could have been prevented from having any. What they wanted was the nation wide push to get all their delegates voted to the exclusion of what they termed the “establishment”. Their real anger was because they could not report in that they were successful in manipulating the convention process to establish the objective of total take over.
As for the accusation that the “establishment” did not attempt to help the “newbies” understand the process, they did not show up for any previous always public meetings to ask about the process.
The said “establishment” spends much volunteer time and money encouraging college students and any new members all year long. I personally spent two hours today decorating a venue so that the college Republicans can host Sam Olens. More volunteer time and money will be spent before and during the actual event. As we were preparing the venue site the phrase “this is their show (meaning the college Republicans) and we are just here to assist as needed was repeated during the entire time. That is the only attitude I have observed in my association with the current “establishment” when it comes to welcoming new blood and new ideas.
I borrow the Lake poster’s description of the “establishment”, “They even begin to feel superior to most people and even in what at best case scenario, in some twisted way, think that they are the only ones capable of making decisions and seeing the big picture. That they are actually doing others a favor because those other people just are not smart enough to make good decisions!” Anyone who reads the posts and comments of the Ron Paul supporters who associate with this gang movement to disrupt and over power the convention processes can see that very attitude to be their touchstone motivation.